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So really what is the biggest contention between the Christians as the world knows them and the doctrine of the Mormons? Basically what it comes down to is that Mormons do not consider themselves as Christians as this world knows them. Mormons do believe that Christ is the son of God whereas Christians will relate that he is not only the son of God but God himself where as the Mormons break the two into two separate being

According to the Mormons even though Christ is called the Father it does not make him God. They do not deny that he is the author of our salvation as many quotations will be taken from the King James version by the Mormons in respect to Jesus making reference to his Father on a continuous basis.

Why do Mormons believe they are Christians when you don’t accept the Bible as the final authority and rely on writings besides the Bible?

It must be pointed out that it is important for people to realize that the Mormons do not refer to being Christians as the Orthodox Christians of todays world. One may refer to Christians as they were in the New Testament days.

One of the arguments put forth by a Christian is that the Mormons do not rely just on the Holy Bible but on writings aside from this book like that of the Book of Mormon for example. What they will refer is that they believe that part of the Scripture is correct but that some of it has been misconstrued and not translated properly and is also missing some of the teachings. They will ask who knows which Bible is correct or what translation and who makes the interpretation. They will point out that there have been many versions of the Bible written over the years.

So the Mormons argument is that there has been no complete Bible since the end of the apostles and the fact that early Christians did not even have the Bible to rely on at that time as the final word of God. They say that the Bible itself will tell you that it does not lie that it is incomplete and they will also point out that the apostle John was of the same mind according to their interpretation regarding this matter.

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The great arguments among the Christians and the Mormons is that the Mormons will not accept the Christian creeds. The belief here is that the very same reasons that exclude the Mormons or the Latter Day Saints from Christianity as it is known today also excludes the original Christians of the New Testament .what is the big reference here is to the nicean creed or any other creeds that came after the Bible.

As far as using other books beside the Bible an argument of the Mormons are Christians will be quick to point out that the early Christians were not either. They will bring to the point the name of the New Testament itself which indicates that it was a new volume of Scripture. The consensus is that there are many new volumes regarding this Scripture. They will note that many of the early Christians did give credence to the Gospel of Matthew but that there were Jewish writings as well and there are other books accepted by the early Christians that are not being used today such as the book of Enoch. So the bottom line comes down to that if the society of Christianity is not going to accept the Mormons as being Christians of today then they have to put what were called Christians in the biblical days into the same category as being non-Christian.

Wasn’t it just in the past few years the mormons have started to pretend to be Christians in order to better fit into society?

It has to be taken into consideration that many years ago that the Mormons made no claim to be part of the Christian religion. The argument now being raised by Christians is that the Mormons have taken a opposite approach to this because they want to be able to fit into society and a better way. The argument from the seniors of the Mormon church denied this and stated that they have changed nothing since their inception back in the beginning when Joseph Smith puts the church of latter day saints together.

In respect to this argument they will make several references to Joseph Smith’s prophecies and writing they will further go on to say that the concept that Mormons are definitely Christians are accepted by anyone that is familiar with the Church of Mormons should be pointed out that many of the writings of the Mormons will make it very clear that they had no intention of becoming just another Church of America.

It is believed that the inception of this church was based on Joseph Smiths vision that God wanted him to bring a new church to earth because none that were here were correct. Great exception is taken to the fact that many Christians will refer to theMormons as being a form of cult. Any individual that is part of Mormonism holds a high caliber of respect for Joseph Smith. It must be remembered that he has been accepted as being a prophet of the religion and is the only one that had the right to set the tone for what the church would stand for. The Mormons profess of a letter from a past congressmen who have heard Joseph Smith preach and found no discourse with Christianity. It is writings like this that they will heavily dependent on in support their claims

The real problem comes down to where it is almost a play on words when trying to discern just exactly what the Mormons do stand for and what they do not. There is no doubt that they believe in many segments of the Bible however in respect to Joseph Smiths teaching there have been additions and exceptions and this is where the argument from the Christian standpoint comes into play that there now are no exceptions to what is written in the Bible

In respect to the argument that Mormons are now referring to Jesus Christ more than what they did years ago it is pointed out that Ted Jones who was a Baptist missionary brought up the very same complaint back in 1912 therefore if it was evident then that the Mormons were relying on the term Christianity certainly is not something that has been just surfacing in the last few years.

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If one is to ask a Latter Day Saints follower which is of the Mormon religion if they are Christian their answer will be yes. Their stance on this is that they do worship Christ and they have an obligation to follow him. That they are baptized in his name and that they do take part of holy communion and that they are bound to remember the sacrifice of his life. They do pray to the Father in his name and they do make every effort to obey the teachings of Christ. They will tell you that they believe he is the living Christ, the son of God and that it is the way it is said in the old and New Testament and as well as their own book which is the book of Mormon also referred to as another Testament of Jesus Christ.

How can you be a Christian – Don’t you believe you are saved by works. Don’t you deny the basic truth of the trinity?

There is always been a speculation that the Mormons believed that they are basically saved by good works and this is one of the contentions with Christianity. However some of the Mormons will tell you that know they actually believe that they are saved through grace. It is quite often a play on words when it comes to trying to understand Mormonism. For example Christianity believes that the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost are one.

The Mormons will tell you they believe this as well but they will put it in the pretext that they believe they are one in purpose. Another speculation of what Christianity is comes down to where things start to get a little confused. Some believe that if an individual looks to Christ for salvation and seeks to follow him then that’s enough to qualify as a Christian no matter what else that person believes. The Mormons will tell you that is the reason they are judged as being non-Christian because one they believe in keeping the commandments and secondly because they do not accept standard doctrine of the Trinity.

When it comes to keeping the commandments they will often refer to excerpts from the Holy Bible as their stance on this. They will tell you that they are not saved by works but that they must follow Christ in order to be saved. Then they will go on to talk about spiritual death as well the physical death which is what they purport the resurrection of Christ as. When one looks at all of the explanations that the Mormon will stand on they are very close to being what the Bible says with the change of a word here and there. Unfortunately it is the change of the word that changes the entire context of what the Holy Bible as saying in comparison to the Mormon faith.

When it comes to the Trinity which is one of the biggest contentions or differences in Christianity and Mormonism the argument here by the Mormons is that this concept was what man has taught not what Christ and the apostles taught. They will present the many different creeds as their argument as the various creeds all depict the Trinity as something different.

To support their view of the Trinity they will pick out several verses from different parts of the Holy Bible but it must be remembered that the Mormons rely heavily on their own book which is the book of Mormon. Many of the experienced Mormons will agree that some of their doctrines do go against what most of the other churches teach about .They further believe the cause of the attacks from other Christians is because they take the Bible to literally.

The Mormons really put a lot of emphasis on Luke 24 in the Bible regarding the resurrection of Christ and the fact that he is in a flesh and bone state so therefore they believe that because he was resurrected as such that he was resurrected as a flesh and blood. This is also used in their support of the Trinity not being one entity. The Mormons will go on to tell you a great deal about Joseph Smith and his visions. They believe this because the instructions in the New Testament indicate that there are individual circumstances that apply for every individual including Christ.

If one wanted to get an understanding what the Mormons are referring to when it comes to the Trinity he would have to look at each Scripture that they are referring to from the Holy Bible and then do a combination all of these scriptures together to get a true picture.

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